 Hello. Hello, good afternoon. Miss herman. Hello, i'm shi ting and2 weeks ago that we did the reusable packaging research into your delta. So this is for the follow up for interview. Okay, so is that fine for you to discuss some simple questions now? Yeah, fine for me. Okay, I got I block. Thank you. Thank you so much. Okay, so I just start directly. Yeah, how do you feel about using the meal, reusable cup in your home? They use it at only the cup or the whole concept. What do you mean? The whole concept, but the cop, you're using your feeling of using the cop at home. Yeah. Yeah, ii like the whole concept, and I used the cup with the cookies which were in charge. I use a little bit and my family use a little bit. 
After this, the cup of bus empty. And yeah, I did not use it after it was empty. That's no problem. Yeah, because I already have some boxes to store for super sugar advice and so on. So this one was an extra one. When it was empty, I did not use it anymore. Yeah, that's fine. That's okay. Maybe you can just keep it as a souvenir yeah or for the other purpose. So may I ask, where did you store the cup? I started in my kitchen a in a drawer, okay? Together with all the other boxes, I ask, okay, yeah. How do you evaluate the cup in incorporation to your other food containers? It has another size because this one is more small, but all the other, also they are, well, so not as clear uh size, but it's such together fine. 
In my drawer, there was still some space to store the cup. Yeah. Okay. Then so you already finished all the cookies inside. Did you clean it before you put it in the drawer? Yes, I did yeah. And how did you clean it? I was not sure to put it in the dishwasher, because I did not know if suitable for a dishwasher. So I cleaned it by hand. 
That's likely because it's not suitable for the dishwasher. I got. Because there was no information about it, but as. Yeah, but I thought let's take it for sure and do not put it in the fish water. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of the issue. The other participants they also mentioned because they want to wash it together with other dishes. But actually, this one is not suitable for the dishwasher, because of there is a chip on the bottom of the cup. 
So likely you didn't put that in a dishwasher. I know i'm having a look at it now. And there ii now see there is a sign, but I I did not understand the sign that it is this for sure. Yes, there is a very little charcoal. I saw ii saw that I can, but I did not know for sure enforcement not to use, in addition, so far, ii get that. So in the picture of the icon is, just some plate with some water, I think. Because I know I didn't have a cup, I remember there is an echo. 
Okay. If that is possible in our real life uh, would you like to shop again using the system? Yes, I like to show you much and why do you think you will continue using that? Because it's less rich. So I can be filled the cups. And now i'm always very search and buying my grocery groceries. And a lot of the growth is they are the in the in plastic. And I follow very all the questions, because I think it's not good for the environment. But if you use the reusable cup or the other containers, you need always bring them with you when you go to the supermarket. Yeah, but that's not the problem for me, because I go to fish with an empty bag. 
For me, it's not a problem. Then I would use the system to take with me the empty boxes and sell it in the store. That's fine for me. Pay, yeah. If you have a several reusable cops or the containers, how would you prepare for your shopping? Like you said, you will bring a an empty back to put all the containers in it and bring them with you. Because if you want to use a system, maybe you need to consider how many containers you need to bring with you, and which product that you will refuel in the supermarket? 
How would you consider about this preparation process? Yeah, it's you mean how many I would take from home to the shop? Yeah, I think it depends on your shopping habits. And like would you uh? Will you have a shopping list before you go to the supermarket? Or you just decide what to buy in the supermarket? It's always different. Yeah, sometimes, for example, that I have a rush. For example, I would have flies in a cup, and I see that device is almost finished. Then I would take the cup to be filled at the store, but I do not have fixed shopping habits, because a a lot of all very often I could go to the shop and at the shop, I think, okay, did I have a wife now or just finish? 
So I think I when I see it's finished over or it's always finished, I would take the cup and be finished yeah. But then I forget to check it at home. In the store, I i'm thinking about is it finished or not? Then I would not buy a new cup, but I would go back home and have a look at it. 
Yeah, so if you are not sure whether you finish it at home, you won't get a new cop. You just will check and maybe review it for next time when you go to the supreme court. 
Yeah. Yeah, I I would not buy a new cup, but I would check at home. And then start and we feel it. Yeah. Will you also try to use your self containers with the system? Yeah, because I have a lot of containers, now yes. Yeah. Yeah, and that's also what I like about concepts of mirror that you can also take your own on china. Yes. Okay. So I think I maybe I would mix it makes. It so used my my own containers. They shall very and they shall very use, yeah. But for a new products for which I do not have container yet, in my house, I would buy a container formula. Yeah. Do you feel your personal action in using the system will have environmental impact. Can you ask it again and? I don't understand that good. Do you feel your personal actions, just like as an individual to use the system will have the environmental impact or environmental benefits. 
I think by using the system, I think I can add some benefits. You have the environment. When you use the system, you will have the feeling that you are contribute to the environment. Yeah, how and I because I think all small things can help. That's true, but um um. Yeah, so why I ask this question is because now we have the feeling that the communication of sustainable in the of sustainability in the system. It's not visible for the consumers. I'm not sure if you have this kind of feeling that you just um follow the instructions and do it, because you feel good to do it. 
But maybe some of the consumers, they are not very sure about how much they can contribute, because it's not available. They they just just reuse it, but they don't know the how much they contribute. Do you have this kind of feelings or have some ideas on this? No. But then I yeah, I do not know how much I will contribute, but I know all yeah, all the small things they can help. And I when I would use the system, I see that I have to throw away less fish. So that is only this topic, just me a good feeling. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, some people also said they will um like distinguish the the benefits by the reduction of the waste. So they threw less waste, and they feel they are contributing to the to the environment through the system. 
The after you have used the system and the cop in the research, do you feel different towards buying product in single use packaging when you go to the supermarket? 
Yeah. Yeah, I think I have a better feeling because yeah it causes less ways. Yeah, for me, it would work out. Yeah. That's good to know. I have my last question. And could you imagine this will become our main shopping approach for groceries in the future? Especially for the packaged product on the shelf? Do you think it will be our future to reuse the containers and refuse the products? Yeah, I think ii do see a future, but at the same time I think it will not change shops for 100%, because the cops they are the tender you can be used for some products, mhm. But that's for all the products yeah yeah. 
So for a jumper the cups for me why they would not be suitable for fluids. So for milk, coca cola and so on. Yeah, I do not know it. Ii think subs will will change and maybe shops they will have different systems inside. So maybe we were for the products, the cups of river are good for and maybe other companies who can deal for the fluids to the shop. Yes, so I think that by step shops will change, I think. Okay, then that's all my questions. Thank you for sharing your opinions with me again. Okay. Again, good luck with your research. Thank you so much. And have a nice weekend okay okay. Thank you. Bye. Bye. 